Sounds like a good thing.  Yay for women, for sure!  But the job prospects are not so great, so there are lots of educated people and nothing for them to do.  Scary.  Very very scary…..especially b/c someone you all know is looking to graduate and enter the job market soon.  Ugh….


See the summary article HERE or the full survey done by NSF HERE.


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4 responses »

  1. Tricia says:

    The thing that most surprised me is how bad the job market sucks for everyone, regardless of education level. I figured I was creating more opportunities for myself my pursuing my PhD, but there are way too many of us right now and not enough jobs. Guess everyone had the same idea.

  2. Dave, you make some good points. After reviewing my comment, I want to make it very clear that I’m not disparaging a PhD. Anyone that can stick out the rigors of doctorate degree has my respect. I guess I’m looking at it more from a financial perspective as opposed to a philosophical one. Most non-tenured teaching positions, depending on the field, don’t pay more than 50k. With my first MA, I’ll make more than that. And my second will pay me 20k more than the first. Philosophy and analytical thinking is all good, but it doesn’t pay the bills and tickets to the Jimmy Buffet concert:)

  3. Dave says:

    I’d be more concerned finding a job with a Master’s degree, which have become more commonplace than a bachelor’s degree just a generation ago. Depending on the field, it may have no value, except to create possibility of a higher advancement ceiling.

    The Ph.D on the other hand provides the opportunity to polish critical thinking, writing, and very importantly, publishing skills, which are required in order to obtain a tenured professorship at a worthwhile university.

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics predicts that the job outlook for postsecondary teachers (jobs commonly sought by graduates of Ph.D. programs) should be much brighter than it has been in recent years. Employment in that area is expected to grow by almost 40 percent by 2012, whereas overall employment is expected to grow by only 15 percent. So, your timing may be just right if you’re just starting a Ph.D. program and hope to take root in the world of academia. However, those with only an M.A. will find it difficult to compete in that area due to the greater number of Ph.D.’s aiming for those new openings. M.A.’s will be left to look for non-tenured, temporary positions at low tier state schools, and community colleges as their only academic options.

    Either way, at least it’s better than law school.

  4. It’s a good point. I have a MA and am looking to go back and get another. Then I found out there was a doctoral degree in this field. I asked the dean what I could do with the doctoral degree that I couldn’t do with the MA. She said teach at a graduate level. I said no thanks. For me, it’s just not worth going in debt tens of thousands of dollars (above and beyond the MA) just to be paying it off for years to come.

    Good luck finding a position!

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